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lornatatomir : Martin you want to try Mission BC chant...younger guys voices in a special event2025-04-14 01:59:24
meghogan : Good night, all!!2025-04-14 01:59:11 meghogan : Lorna, sometimes I just chant Compline to those tones...2025-04-14 01:58:56 
martinheggestad : Good night, all!2025-04-14 01:58:53 lornatatomir : Blessing May God go with you..2025-04-14 01:58:44 lornatatomir : Have you guys ( literally) ever gone on the Compline section of the New Melleray Abbey site and done Compline with their recording. It missed it and still do now so far from a monastery.2025-04-14 01:58:15 
shawnkafader : Blessings on everyone's Holy Week and Easter!2025-04-14 01:58:03 martinheggestad : I will keep you in my prayers!2025-04-14 01:57:45 meghogan : Oh, the nuns are not flat.2025-04-14 01:57:44 meghogan : prayers and we'll do the same for you.2025-04-14 01:57:09 martinheggestad : I have no doubt he would love it, Meg. I did get him to make a very brief visit to the Abbaye Val Notre-Dame in Quebec. A beautiful monastery, but he thought the monks chanting was too flat.2025-04-14 01:57:07 meghogan : Well dear brothers and sister in Christ, it's about time to wrap things up. I am so looking forward to seeing you next week, Shawn, and I wish y'all could be there, Lorna and Martin. Keep us in your2025-04-14 01:56:58 meghogan : Oh Martin you HAVE to take him to Our Lady of the Mississippi Abbey (the nuns). The Office is so beautifuly there is almost a sin!!2025-04-14 01:53:48 martinheggestad : The seminar would be a hit, Meg.2025-04-14 01:53:36 martinheggestad : That's a great idea, Meg. I think my spouse would actually like doing such a thing. He's a professional musician and would really get into the chanting.2025-04-14 01:52:47 meghogan : We could hear about lectio and such things, and they could go to a seminar on "Living with Your Crazy Lay Cistercian Associate Spouse!"2025-04-14 01:52:41 martinheggestad : I'm glad my husband isn't alone in fearing that he'll lose me to my other great love. (I think he knows that my true vocation is with him, though.)2025-04-14 01:52:07 meghogan : We should have a big "Bring Your Spouse" retreat sometime - it might make them a little less antsy about us going!2025-04-14 01:51:12 lornatatomir : Martin. My hubby has that concern too, He was really worried I would just go and not come back, even though as he knew they had a female abbey too. We had a male Abbey closer to our home then.2025-04-14 01:50:09 meghogan : Martin - what is "going native" in a monastery" ? 🙂 😉 🙂2025-04-14 01:49:01 meghogan : Shawn, she could come for a Conversi retreat - my husband usually comes and does other stuff during the day, but eats with us, etc.2025-04-14 01:48:04 shawnkafader : Exactly, Martin!2025-04-14 01:48:00 shawnkafader : I see he is coming with you this time, Meg!2025-04-14 01:47:38 martinheggestad : My husband always tells me he's afraid I'll "go native" when I head off to the abbey.2025-04-14 01:47:25 meghogan : lost weight through cooking for himself!! (When our dog was alive, the dog looked a bit scrawny, too!)2025-04-14 01:46:33 shawnkafader : I may never come home...the grass would not get cut...the windows would never get washed...(ha ha)2025-04-14 01:46:28 meghogan : Yeah, Shawn, I get it about the spouse having some say in how long one stays at a monastery - my husband is pretty happy to pick me up at the airport when I come home from Mississippi Abbey. And he's2025-04-14 01:46:00 lornatatomir : Maybe that's your Jungian dream....after all they do make Caskets..:)))) Lovely spot I was surprised how impressive it is. Like bus tours stop at the Casket Factory. You could take her.....:))2025-04-14 01:45:37 shawnkafader : I will search it. Thanks.2025-04-14 01:44:46 meghogan : It wouldn't be on our site, I don't think - perhaps on the main Trappist website; which address escapes me at the moment.2025-04-14 01:44:26 shawnkafader : Thanks, Meg.2025-04-14 01:44:22 shawnkafader : I would love to do that sometime, Lorna...but I am not sure my wife would let me 😉2025-04-14 01:43:54 meghogan : words, it would be a guide to understanding and implementing the Constitutions.2025-04-14 01:43:09 lornatatomir : Shawn you know New Melleray has a longer stay visit space for men. You can go stay longer in exchange for doing some light tasks and you can hang out with the community without expectations .2025-04-14 01:42:39 meghogan : I think it is the document that was produced when the Trappists were rewriting their Constitutions - it wasn't the Constitutions themselves but the reasons they wrote them the way they did. In other2025-04-14 01:42:26 shawnkafader : Question - What is the document "Ratio Institutionis"? Is it on our site?2025-04-14 01:40:42 meghogan : The very first Conversi retreat I went to I remember thinking, "Well, these guys do whatever manual labor they do to support their prayer habit!" it was that obvious!!2025-04-14 01:39:56 shawnkafader : That is why I want to come early to the retreat. I just want to be a part of the praying of the Office.2025-04-14 01:38:30 martinheggestad : I always feel "held" by the structure of the Office while on retreat and miss it once I get home.2025-04-14 01:37:30 meghogan : Isn't it?! People think I'm nuts to go spend a week at a Trappist monastery. If only they knew!!2025-04-14 01:37:16 shawnkafader : I had a similar experience at Gethsemane this past fall...I brought stuff to do/read...abandoned myself to the hours and it was great.2025-04-14 01:35:53 meghogan : I didn't have to create it, and I can use it to get my day (and prayer life!!) in order.2025-04-14 01:34:34 meghogan : Shawn I usually spend a week at Our Lady of the Mississippi in the fall. And it's really nice to have that structure of the Office to lean on. It's like a trellis for a climbing rose bush - it's there2025-04-14 01:34:02 shawnkafader : Looking forward to it.2025-04-14 01:32:50 meghogan : Shawn, you will enjoy the retreat coming up - the teaching is on Lectio Divina.2025-04-14 01:32:19 shawnkafader : Perhaps if I were living in the monastic community I would be more structured?2025-04-14 01:31:42 shawnkafader : Right now I am in a strong lectio and silence season.2025-04-14 01:30:25 shawnkafader : Charism are like seasons for me. Some stronger at time than others.2025-04-14 01:29:41 shawnkafader : I found Peter's statement, "There are many ways to live the Cistercian Lay life" to be encouraging to me. I think that some of the disciplines of the Cistercian2025-04-14 01:29:13 martinheggestad : Joan Chittester is wonderful, Shawn. I also have found Esther de Waal to be very helpful as a guide to the Rule.2025-04-14 01:26:36 martinheggestad : secular college town. What is it that draws them?2025-04-14 01:24:59 shawnkafader : I use Joan Chittister's book as a guide. Read through the Rule three times a year.2025-04-14 01:24:49 martinheggestad : Meg, I also found Peter's point about "behavioral evangelization" to be helpful. It often seems mysterious to me that about 2000 people worship every Sunday at the university parish in my highly2025-04-14 01:24:48 lornatatomir : Great idea !«link removed»2025-04-14 01:24:23 meghogan : I mean, "back".2025-04-14 01:23:42 meghogan : Shawn, when Conversi first started we had the portion of the Rule for the day posted on the website. Then they had to change a lot of the website and it dropped off. But maybe we can get it bacl...2025-04-14 01:22:44 martinheggestad : Writing to Peter is a good idea. I will make a note to myself.2025-04-14 01:22:13 lornatatomir : Little plug for Canadian members and I loved Martha's Journal note on Colleen and it reminds me we exchanged letters and I need to get back to her. Dwindling Cistercian monasteries in Canada .2025-04-14 01:21:52 shawnkafader : I wrote Peter after reading his paper. Thanked him for his encouragement. He responded with a very nice note.2025-04-14 01:21:35 meghogan : Yup, Lorna, I was going to write him after the chat.2025-04-14 01:21:00 shawnkafader : Most days I try to read the portion of the Rule that is assigned to the day. I am finding its words more and more applicable each time I read through it.2025-04-14 01:20:42 meghogan : (like the cops, who are now at pretty much every Church in the diocese to quelch any problems before they get big) but haven't come specifically to worship.2025-04-14 01:20:04 lornatatomir : Peter is a bit quieter as an Emeritus on and off but his email is still up guys and he would probably love to get a note. It gets kind of grey up there in Prince George . plzimmer2@gmail.com2025-04-14 01:20:03 meghogan : I also liked what Peter had to say about Sunday worship - especially that it was "behavioral evangelization" - never thought of it that way, but it is. Especially, I think to people who are there2025-04-14 01:19:16 meghogan : Every time I start to "talk trash" about someone that section from the Rule about bridling one's tongue pops into my brain. Yeah, it does change how you think.2025-04-14 01:15:12 lornatatomir : The idea of using the RB to form the Rule versus just what spiritual habits do I want to have in my day and work life balance was insightful as I had been looking at a Rule of Life " Garden Template.2025-04-14 01:15:04 lornatatomir : I was reading Peters writing on making a rule of life. I hadn't thought of it being a section of the Rule. I know in the past the RB kind of worked into bits of my soul and changed some thinking ,2025-04-14 01:13:10 meghogan : Oh Martin me too!2025-04-14 01:12:18 shawnkafader : I believe that conversion will be an eternal process.2025-04-14 01:12:10 meghogan : us to pray for all the people who come that day who don't come otherwise, that they might find their way home. He is really big on God's love for us.2025-04-14 01:11:51 meghogan : We got a very nice short sermon on the Mercy of God - a great reflection for the whole week. I really like our new pastor. He acknowledged that things were going to be crowded Easter Sunday and asked2025-04-14 01:10:34 martinheggestad : That is very helpful, Meg. Sometimes I can fall into a mentality of seeing prayer as like a task I'm supposed to do, rather than an opportunity to spend time with Someone I love.2025-04-14 01:10:20 shawnkafader : Yes, Meg, an ever deepening relationship that can never be exhausted - even through eternity.2025-04-14 01:09:43 lornatatomir : So it was nice to have an unknown praying family member. So full of little cute kids waving palm branches and asking how come Jesus was covered up...cute2025-04-14 01:08:42 meghogan : Hi Lorna!!2025-04-14 01:07:52 meghogan : that's what prayer is - loving conversation with God, who loves us and who we love.2025-04-14 01:07:23 lornatatomir : Went to Palm Sunday Mass tonight, so lovely. Sitting there my husbands brothers, significant other came in and sat beside me. She keeps her faith very quiet in public especially in front of family,2025-04-14 01:06:55 meghogan : One of the statements that really struct me was "In large measure the techniques for deep prayer resemble the techniques used by people who try to nourish love for each other." Because, you know,2025-04-14 01:06:39 martinheggestad : Sounds good, Meg.2025-04-14 01:05:07 martinheggestad : We had a nice day here as well, warmer and sunnier than it's been, and the Palm Sunday service was absolutely packed and beautifully done.2025-04-14 01:04:54 meghogan : Well, shall we start, and let others join in as they come?2025-04-14 01:04:43 meghogan : We have a new pastor in our parish, and it was a beautiful day weather-wise, and just a very nice Palm Sunday experience all around. I'm really greatful.2025-04-14 01:03:43 shawnkafader : Yes, Peter was my Conversi mentor when I first entered.2025-04-14 01:02:57 martinheggestad : I remember Peter fondly.2025-04-14 01:02:54 meghogan : Hi Martin!2025-04-14 01:02:16 shawnkafader : Hello Martin!2025-04-14 01:02:16 meghogan : I really enjoyed Peter Z's presentation - you do remember him, don't you? He's emeritus now, but he almost came to NM this time.2025-04-14 01:02:08 martinheggestad : Hi Shawn and Meg!2025-04-14 01:01:47 meghogan : Hi Shawn!2025-04-14 00:59:33 shawnkafader : Hello Meg!2025-04-14 00:59:02 meghogan : Hi Everyone!2025-04-14 00:55:14 
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